MAPS ADDED: Is HS2 route too close for comfort?

MAPS ADDED: Is HS2 route too close for comfort?

The line passes through Northwich villages

The HS2 line looks like it runs through Tabley Showground, home of the Cheshire Show.

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Northwich Guardian: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter

A HIGH speed rail link for the UK will cut through Northwich’s countryside and villages, according to route details revealed on Monday.

Maps show that the Birmingham to Manchester leg of HS2 will cut through Stanthorne, Bostock, Whatcroft, Lach Dennis, Lostock Green, Lostock Gralam and Pickmere, cutting close to Tabley Showground, home of the Cheshire Show.

Protesters are already rallying against the scheme, which they fear will blight the countryside, while supporters say it will bring economic benefits to the country.

What do you think about the proposal?

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3:20am Wed 30 Jan 13

pickmerehs2protester says...

Has the "Tatton Traitor" sold us all out?

After all It wont be him that's woken up to the sound of the earth boring machine, drilling 30 meters underneath his home, making mini channel tunnels. He does not live here.

Nor will he swapping his current view for a nice concrete viaduct complete with sonic boom sound effects day & night, powered by enough electric crackling away to turn us all into mutants ninja turtles.

Yeah well its not going to happen for 20 years, i hear you say>

How about watching the earth moving trucks fly past your schools every day for 15 years. How many deaths will that cause. The cranes blighting the views. Don't mind the increased crime rate as low paid labour move into the area in temporary caravan housing or opportunists coming to find cable and scrap. What about the constant traffic madness. Do you commute to work every day? .. fancy 15 years of road and motorway nightmares whichever way you travel. North or south. Tunnels Viaducts bridges loads in a 10 mile radius and god knows how many roads that will be sealed off for good. Look at the plans for yourself, i urge you.
then there is the Power and Telecommunication blackouts... yes that includes your internet connections.

Enjoyed the Cheshire Show this year did you? Scrub that off your list events to go to in the coming years. Even the Queens land does not escape it, its ripped in half! just as well, as there will be no farms or farmers left after the tracks are laid. What about a nice game of golf at one of the several clubs that now have new obstacle for you to loose a few balls on. Good luck with getting it back.

Even if your for or against a train that will get you to London 50 mins quicker in 20 years time. If your homeowner in this area you going to get hit big time in the pocket right now. You need to read on.

Ok so you'll move will you. Great idea! Good luck you wont be able too...

In particular, Pickmere, Wincham, Lostock & some Northwich residents.

As a taster.discover some facts. Ask yourself Do you live within 3 miles of the route?

1) If you live near the proposed route you as of Monday 28th Jan you have already lost money on the value of your property.
2) No mortgage company will remortgage your property if you are near the route.
3) No one will buy your property as from 28th Jan as they would not benefit from any compensation even if you are on the direct route path. It will show up on searches and you have to tell them its the law.
4)Under current proposals unless you live within 60meters of the line you will not receive 1 penny in compensation until 1 year after the first train goes down the track this is forecast to be 2027 & this amount is capped at mere 10% of your property value or £47k whichever is the smaller.
5) They can bore 30m under your house and you won't get a penny.
6) You could be stuck in your house for 15 years no prospect of moving no prospect of remortgaging.
7)They still have not finalised the route so don't think your safe. They can move it at any time and are likely too and guess what? you wont be able to do a thing about it, it will be too late. You need to act now. have your say. I don't mean campaigning outside someones office. He is never there anyway. There is just some girl having a crafty fag stood in the door way. There is a simple form to fill in.

The government have given you only until April 2013 to comment on the compensation proposals..but they have not told you? no mailers, no phone calls. No visits, No advertising! I assume because they don't want you to comment. So if they move the route nearer to you and you have not objected to the distance for compensation you lose your say and possible any chance of protecting your main asset.

Object now, increase the 60 meter proposal. Make sure your protected.
Have your say before April, tell your neighbours tell everyone. It will only take you a couple of moments to fill in the form.
for help on having your say and finding the truth google "hs2 action groups".
See what's happening in other parts of the country and what is going to happen here on your doorstep.

Come on lets knock this one on the head! its such a long time for little or no benefit, the internet only started 20 years ago or so look how thats changed things, surely we will be coming up with some better ideas by the time this thing gets finished.

I dont understand why the politicians want it, its not like they will be able to claim for tickets on expenses is it.

To look on the plans get on the Government website.
Has the "Tatton Traitor" sold us all out? After all It wont be him that's woken up to the sound of the earth boring machine, drilling 30 meters underneath his home, making mini channel tunnels. He does not live here. Nor will he swapping his current view for a nice concrete viaduct complete with sonic boom sound effects day & night, powered by enough electric crackling away to turn us all into mutants ninja turtles. Yeah well its not going to happen for 20 years, i hear you say> How about watching the earth moving trucks fly past your schools every day for 15 years. How many deaths will that cause. The cranes blighting the views. Don't mind the increased crime rate as low paid labour move into the area in temporary caravan housing or opportunists coming to find cable and scrap. What about the constant traffic madness. Do you commute to work every day? .. fancy 15 years of road and motorway nightmares whichever way you travel. North or south. Tunnels Viaducts bridges loads in a 10 mile radius and god knows how many roads that will be sealed off for good. Look at the plans for yourself, i urge you. then there is the Power and Telecommunication blackouts... yes that includes your internet connections. Enjoyed the Cheshire Show this year did you? Scrub that off your list events to go to in the coming years. Even the Queens land does not escape it, its ripped in half! just as well, as there will be no farms or farmers left after the tracks are laid. What about a nice game of golf at one of the several clubs that now have new obstacle for you to loose a few balls on. Good luck with getting it back. Even if your for or against a train that will get you to London 50 mins quicker in 20 years time. If your homeowner in this area you going to get hit big time in the pocket right now. You need to read on. Ok so you'll move will you. Great idea! Good luck you wont be able too... In particular, Pickmere, Wincham, Lostock & some Northwich residents. As a taster.discover some facts. Ask yourself Do you live within 3 miles of the route? 1) If you live near the proposed route you as of Monday 28th Jan you have already lost money on the value of your property. 2) No mortgage company will remortgage your property if you are near the route. 3) No one will buy your property as from 28th Jan as they would not benefit from any compensation even if you are on the direct route path. It will show up on searches and you have to tell them its the law. 4)Under current proposals unless you live within 60meters of the line you will not receive 1 penny in compensation until 1 year after the first train goes down the track this is forecast to be 2027 & this amount is capped at mere 10% of your property value or £47k whichever is the smaller. 5) They can bore 30m under your house and you won't get a penny. 6) You could be stuck in your house for 15 years no prospect of moving no prospect of remortgaging. 7)They still have not finalised the route so don't think your safe. They can move it at any time and are likely too and guess what? you wont be able to do a thing about it, it will be too late. You need to act now. have your say. I don't mean campaigning outside someones office. He is never there anyway. There is just some girl having a crafty fag stood in the door way. There is a simple form to fill in. The government have given you only until April 2013 to comment on the compensation proposals..but they have not told you? no mailers, no phone calls. No visits, No advertising! I assume because they don't want you to comment. So if they move the route nearer to you and you have not objected to the distance for compensation you lose your say and possible any chance of protecting your main asset. Object now, increase the 60 meter proposal. Make sure your protected. Have your say before April, tell your neighbours tell everyone. It will only take you a couple of moments to fill in the form. for help on having your say and finding the truth google "hs2 action groups". See what's happening in other parts of the country and what is going to happen here on your doorstep. Come on lets knock this one on the head! its such a long time for little or no benefit, the internet only started 20 years ago or so look how thats changed things, surely we will be coming up with some better ideas by the time this thing gets finished. I dont understand why the politicians want it, its not like they will be able to claim for tickets on expenses is it. To look on the plans get on the Government website. pickmerehs2protester
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5:59pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Hibernian says...

My sympathies for anyone living close to the construction work, which doubtless will be disruptive. But I suspect the value of the homes has already taken a drop because of their proximity to the waste incinerator - something which everyone already has to declare if they're selling their property.
No, I don't want to hijack the HS2 debate and talk incinerators, but I think that's a far greater blight on our neighbourhoods. And once the line is built, I don't think the environmental impact is too significant. Hopefully the majority of building materials will be brought in by rail - that would be the obvious method - which should alleviate problems on the roads. I'm not sure, but it may not be as bad as you think.
My sympathies for anyone living close to the construction work, which doubtless will be disruptive. But I suspect the value of the homes has already taken a drop because of their proximity to the waste incinerator - something which everyone already has to declare if they're selling their property. No, I don't want to hijack the HS2 debate and talk incinerators, but I think that's a far greater blight on our neighbourhoods. And once the line is built, I don't think the environmental impact is too significant. Hopefully the majority of building materials will be brought in by rail - that would be the obvious method - which should alleviate problems on the roads. I'm not sure, but it may not be as bad as you think. Hibernian
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7:06pm Wed 30 Jan 13

L Byrne says...

Hibernian is correct about the effect of the waste incinerator on property values in the area. CHAIN did some research on the subject and came up with a total figure of £50million minimum. If you have seen the monster incinerator building in Runcorn which is just half completed, you can understand why.It seems like home owners in the area affected by the HS2 rail line will have a double whammy to contend with which would be very unfair.

At the risk of being called a 'tree hugger', the real questions are what is the business case for HS2 and could the £34billion projected spend be put to more productive use? It appears that the trains will be mainly used by a relatively small group of well expensed business types desperate to get into London for an early meeting and home again for tea. Hardly a national priority. I am sure we could all come up with good alternative ideas for spending the cash. Mine would include investing in high speed broadband for the entire country and building laboratories in regions like the North West for medical and environmental research.

The problem is that these are not vanity projects so won't appeal to the politicians who control the purse strings.
Hibernian is correct about the effect of the waste incinerator on property values in the area. CHAIN did some research on the subject and came up with a total figure of £50million minimum. If you have seen the monster incinerator building in Runcorn which is just half completed, you can understand why.It seems like home owners in the area affected by the HS2 rail line will have a double whammy to contend with which would be very unfair. At the risk of being called a 'tree hugger', the real questions are what is the business case for HS2 and could the £34billion projected spend be put to more productive use? It appears that the trains will be mainly used by a relatively small group of well expensed business types desperate to get into London for an early meeting and home again for tea. Hardly a national priority. I am sure we could all come up with good alternative ideas for spending the cash. Mine would include investing in high speed broadband for the entire country and building laboratories in regions like the North West for medical and environmental research. The problem is that these are not vanity projects so won't appeal to the politicians who control the purse strings. L Byrne
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