Northwich Victoria to ask for arbitration using FA rules after Court of Arbitration for Sport closes case file

Northwich Victoria left the Victoria Stadium in January after it was sold to a firm based next door. Northwich Victoria left the Victoria Stadium in January after it was sold to a firm based next door.

NORTHWICH Victoria will ask experts trained to solve sporting conflicts to give their verdict on where the team should play its home matches this season.

The club, currently hosting opponents at Stafford Rangers’ ground, plans to invite both the Football Association and the Northern Premier League to attend independent arbitration.

It could serve papers on both before the month’s end.

“This is not the first time we’ve looked at this option,” said Graham Bean, whose Football Factors firm will represent Vics.

“We asked the league to attend voluntary arbitration with us before, but it refused.

“That’s a pity because the matter could have been resolved some time ago. Instead it has gone on and on.”

Mr Bean applied to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), based in Switzerland, to intervene only for that body to rule earlier this week that it could not.

Nor has it responded to the Guardian’s request for an explanation.

A league statement, issued on Tuesday night, read: “CAS has confirmed it does not have jurisdiction to entertain an appeal filed by Northwich Victoria.

“Therefore the case has been terminated.”

Mr Bean said CAS had recognised that the FA’s own rules provided an alternative remedy.

Vics owner Jim Rushe asked the league in June to allow Northwich use a pitch in Greater Manchester that used to be home to North West Counties League club Flixton.

But officials refused, saying the request was made too late for a ground not up to scratch to host matches at a higher level.

An FA panel agreed at an appeal later the same month.

The Guardian has asked the governing body to publish a copy of the written reasons for its decision, but has yet to receive a response.

Despite that, Mr Rushe agreed a three-years lease with Flixton Football Leisure, which runs Valley Road on behalf of landowners Trafford Borough Council.

He says it would be better commercially and logistically for Northwich, evicted from the Victoria Stadium in January after land on which it is built was bought by a firm based next door, to be based there.

He has spent time, and money, improving the facilities.

No FA inspector has approved any of the changes, although Rushe says he invited one to visit.

Asked to verify that claim earlier this week, the FA has not yet replied.

“I find it hard to comprehend how the FA can come to a conclusion regarding the ground’s suitability for Step 4 when they have not viewed it,” said Mr Bean.

He will invoke FA rule K, which permits independent specialists to examine a decision taken by football authorities.

They can only rule on whether the league and FA’s decision is invalid under English law, or that either of those bodies has not followed correctly its procedures.

If Football Factors submits Vics’ case before the end of next week, then a decision could be made in September.

Hearings are held in secret.

“Until we’ve read Vics’ file then we can’t comment further,” said a league spokesman.

Rushe addressed the league’s management committee last month, offering to subsidise the travel costs for teams that would travel further north to play at Flixton.

It members were not persuaded to change their mind, saying the FA panel’s ruling to back the league’s original refusal had closed the matter.

Vics’ owner acted quickly in March to find an alternative host after his first choice, Skelmersdale United’s West Lancashire College Stadium, was rated unfit by inspectors.

He says he picked Stafford, more than 40 miles from town, because the team were on course to be promoted to the Football Conference, so needed a temporary home fit for a higher level.

However the players, second on the pitch to champions Chester, were barred from taking part in the play-offs as part of the club’s punishment for breaking finance rules.

Vics suffered a forced demotion to the league’s Division One South as well.

A crowd of 86 watched Saturday’s campaign curtain-raiser at Stafford, when Stamford were the visitors.

Never before has such a small number of supporters watched Northwich play a league match.

Comments(17)

WHS says...
12:01am Sat 25 Aug 12

Could I just ask "If Mr. Rushe has money to spend subsidising travel for the away team and making crazy applications to weird arbitration panels why doesn't he pay some of the debts that Vics have"? This shambles has gone on far too long already it is time for it to end. Mr Rushe should hand over the club to the poor saps who support the club and let them re-start in a minor league and try to build from there.
WHS.

markust says...
11:44am Sat 25 Aug 12

If JR did hand over the club to the fans, who do you think would be crazy enough to take responsibility for it? There could be enough skeletons in the closet to cause problems for years to come. None of the NVFC companies have filed accounts to companies house for years, which given it is a legal obligation of a limited company, is slightly suspicious.

WHS says...
1:47pm Sat 25 Aug 12

The answer seems to be setting up a totally new club, may I suggest "Vale Royal Victoria". I am a staunch Wittoner and I do believe Vics are only reaping what the have sowed in that for years they have been paying for their successes with other people's money; however what is happening now is wrong even to this staunch Wittoner. Mr Rushe, give the club back to who it belongs to, the supporters.
WHS.

pdw says...
3:40pm Sat 25 Aug 12

Alan,
You are right he should go but doubt we could service the debt if he did,
Success has been achieved on other peoples noney which is wrong, A new fans run club paying debts is the way forward and will hopefully happen next year.

onered says...
10:44pm Tue 28 Aug 12

Rushe will not be getting any "Wind Fall" from the F.A. Cup this Season, Northwich beaten by Curzon Ashton 4 - 2 on Penalties tonight.

WHS says...
10:29am Wed 29 Aug 12

At least they won't have the expense of hiring the ground for the next round! To Mr Rushe. In God's name GO!!
WHS.

jcvics89 says...
1:51pm Thu 30 Aug 12

all of these appeals may seem pointless to some but at least someone is trying to do something to ease the mess we are in and if those 'supporters' got behind the appeal then the number of people appealing or petitioning may make a difference but instead they are just happy to sit around and do nothing accept MOAN!

Antony Rogers says...
11:01pm Fri 7 Sep 12

jcvics89 wrote:
all of these appeals may seem pointless to some but at least someone is trying to do something to ease the mess we are in and if those 'supporters' got behind the appeal then the number of people appealing or petitioning may make a difference but instead they are just happy to sit around and do nothing accept MOAN!
I agree! Rushe is innocent, he's been framed, everyone is against him, it's a conspiracy, give him a break, back these appeals and help Rushe finish what he started 5 years ago....... The demise and destruction of one of the greatest non-league football clubs in history.

jcvics89 says...
3:10pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I'm not saying that, i just think supporters should support northwich victoria THE team and not the owner because the only people suffering is the team! and whoever trys to disagree with that are lying or deluded

WHS says...
4:25pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Northwich Victoria to all intents and purposes no longer exist. Mr. Rushe will change their name quite soon to "Flixton Victoria so get ready to start up a new club if you want another team in Northwich. Or you could simply change your allegiance to Witton.
WHS.

THETELLEROFTALES says...
7:47am Sat 15 Sep 12

I still think

'Dane Wanderers'

has a ring to it.

onered says...
9:01am Sat 15 Sep 12

There used to be a team called "Dane Wanderers" based on the Leftwich Estate, playing down by the River Dane.

WHS says...
9:39am Sat 15 Sep 12

You are right, I think I played against them and still have the stud marks to prove it!!
WHS.

Antony Rogers says...
7:29am Sun 16 Sep 12

jcvics89 wrote:
I'm not saying that, i just think supporters should support northwich victoria THE team and not the owner because the only people suffering is the team! and whoever trys to disagree with that are lying or deluded
How can fans support the team and not the owner? The club is a private company owned and financially mismanaged by one man, JIM RUSHE. So supporting the club is supporting the owner. Fans have had enough of the last 10 years and are now voting with their feet, the last home match at Stafford attracted 65, how many of those were Vics fans?

Why are the team suffering, they're getting paid their wages, so whats the problem. Well I'll tell you what the problem is, the club is operating at a huge loss. It has done for years, thus the reason for the £1.2m plus debt.

The only person that's lying and deluded is Rushe! Not paid the creditors a penny under the CVA agreement, lost the stadium after being 95% complete for the last four years, WUP against NVFC 2004 Ltd, WUP against NVD Ltd, numerous CCJ's, no shirt sponsor for the last four seasons, no communication with the fans, appeal after appeal, relegation after relegation.

So stop lying and deluding yourself.

THETELLEROFTALES says...
7:03pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Dear onered. Correct!

Dear WHS. I used to play for them....but it wasn't me honest!

jcvics89 says...
2:25pm Thu 20 Sep 12

ok fair points about the state of the club but ask yourself if we would be seriously much better starting again from scratch, the problems wont go away even if jim goes and there will be no northwich victoria anymore, which will end years of history so surely the best thing to do would be to keep the club goin as long as possible until something can be sorted. my last comments were over doing it so apologies to any fans who felt targeted.

WHS says...
3:55pm Thu 20 Sep 12

I think Vics fans need to face the fact that "Northwich Victoria" as a name cannot be saved, Mr Rushe is likely to change it to "Flixton Victoria" if he is allowed to move home grounds. "Vale Royal Victoria" has a ring to it or you could always use your nickname "The Arabs"!!
WHS.

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