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Council will spend £60,000 fighting wind farm
4:10pm Friday 20th June 2008
Comments (26)OPPONENTS of the building of the district's first wind farm have welcomed news that Vale Royal Borough Council has pledged money to fight it.
At a meeting on June 12, executive group councillors agreed to a proposal to spend £60,000 to support their case to refuse planning for the wind farm at Aston Grange when it goes to a public inquiry.
SAW are pleased to see that Vale Royal Borough Council is serious in its efforts to support its original planning decision to dismiss the application.
Jonathan Newsham, from action group Stop Aston Windfarm
Tegni Cymru lodged an appeal against the council's decision to refuse them planning in August 2007. A public inquiry will be held to determine the future of the project on August 19, and will last for six days.
The money has been sourced from the £100,000 budget previously allocated for the Ince Marshes inquiry.
That inquiry, held in March, is expected to cost £78,600. Ellesmere Port and Neston Borough Council contributed £50,000 towards the costs in addition to the money from Vale Royal.
But as a result there is money left over, which Vale Royal Borough Council will use to fight the wind farm developers.
Jonathan Newsham, from action group Stop Aston Windfarm, said: "SAW are pleased to see that Vale Royal Borough Council is serious in its efforts to support its original planning decision to dismiss the application.
"SAW are also still fundraising for their own appointed advocate, Geoffrey Sinclair and would welcome donations to the appeal via the website stopastonwindfarm.org."
Clr John Turnbull, lead councillor for community safeguards, said there was a lot of concern from the public about the plans and that the money would be spent on representation.
"We decided to appoint an independent person to appear for us at the inquiry," he added.
Ms T Douglas, has been selected to be the barrister to present the council's case.
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ricardo, says...
1:25pm Sat 21 Jun 08
I was not aware Aston Grange was one such site?
It is also interesting to note that Tegni Cymru are considering this area, surely the extensive and exposed west-coast of wales would be a far better bet?
I'm no nimby, in fact I am in favour of the incinerator as I too think we must look at alternative and clean ways of generating fuel whilst at the same time disposing of the rubbish WE all make.
STEVO, CHESHIRE says...
3:00pm Sat 21 Jun 08
WHO IS THIS Jonathan Newsham ANY WAY SOME STUCK UP GIT WANA BE WHO DOSENT WANT HIS VIEW SPOILT BLOODY ARSE OLS ALL THE SAME UP THE WIND FARM
A Green, Northwich says...
8:36pm Sat 21 Jun 08
It is certainly cleaner than incinerators or, come to that, cleaner than £60 000 going up in smoke.
Spending OUR taxes in the belief that unsightliness is too much to bear is just what you get when you elect so-called 'green tories'. You know who they really represent!
ricardo, says...
1:57pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Incinerators not only generate power but get rid of RUBBISH.
It is misleading to suggest that incinerators are smokey and unclean, having seen them working,you are hardly aware of them: there is NO noise and NO smoke unlike some of the companies in Runcorn, Widnes, Ellesmere Port etc.
Maybe Stevo could tell us about alternative power on his planet-although I can probably guess its methane judging by the plight of its people and what he uses to talk through!
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
4:33pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Then, of course, there is the toxic ash remaining after incineration which has to be disposed of.
"Clean ways of generating fuel whilst at the same time disposing of the rubbish WE all make"
Sorry, but incineration is old technology. We must look to the future, and by the way,when government sources tell us that incineration is safe, can you remember what they told us about asbestos?
Sue Statham
Wincham.
ricardo, says...
5:01pm Sun 22 Jun 08
any harmful metals, acids, and particles of ash. The other cleaner gases, like steam and carbon
dioxide, are released through a chimney.
The proposed incinerator can safely destroy harmful chemicals leaving only harmless ash.
They also run without producing smells or smoke.
As Brian said 'A NIMBY approach benefits no-one' Neither does scaremongering luv!
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
5:18pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Sue Statham
Wincham.
ricardo, says...
5:20pm Sun 22 Jun 08
If we can combine disposal with generating power then so much the better
It might not be perfect but then wind-farms dont get rid of the emormous amount of rubbish we make
Maybe Sue knows of another way of turning household waste into energy?
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
5:42pm Sun 22 Jun 08
I cordially invite Ricardo to the next CHAIN meeting which is at the Bowling Green Pub, London Road, Northwich at 7.30pm on Tuesday 24th June. We welcome everyone's views, be they for or against us!
Sue Statham
Wincham.
ricardo, says...
6:53pm Sun 22 Jun 08
If the meeting is offering other cleaner, efficient and quick ways of turning waste into energy then that is great!
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
7:55pm Sun 22 Jun 08
EFW should have no place in any "waste strategy" because with correct managment and intelligent design, we have no need to let any materials be burned in an incinerator. The process is both wasteful and dangerous. It wastes valuable natural resources and produces a toxic mix of chemicals and a residue of highly toxic ash that needs to be treated and disposed of as hazardous waste.
Sue Statham
Wincham.
ricardo, says...
8:33pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Why is that wasteful and dangerous?
You seem to be focusing on the misleading 'our land will be laid barren by toxic gases and we'll all die from chronic illness if we have an incinerator in Cheshire'
Its all very well saying NO but what better, cleaner more efficient way of turning rubbish into energy are you offering?
I think it has more to do with NIMBY..
John, Cheshire says...
9:03pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Nuclear power can ONLY meet the demands of todays needs and a lot of people need to face up to this, otherwise we'll have to start switching stuff off!!!
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
9:21pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Runcorn, Ince Marshes,Lostock or Middlewich? Four incinerator plants with a proposed total burning capacity of
2,190,000 tonnes...an amount which the county of Cheshire could only create in it's worst nightmare.
So where does all the waste come from to feed these incinerators, which run at capacity twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year?Your guess is as good as mine? If the waste to run these facilities is simply not created, first the recycling will go by the board,then rubbish will be transported from other counties and if you don't keep feeding these incinerators, then you get fined.
I'm sticking up for myself and everyone I care about.I don't want to see Cheshire turned into a huge dumping ground for other people's rubbish,which includes the storage of resultant toxic ash.
EFW seems to be a necessity for you from waste. Well, I'll campaign on the health issues which I so passionately believe in and you campaign for EFW.
The House of Commons website states that new incinerators are much safer than the older generation of incinerators, but just how safe THEY DO NOT KNOW. I'm afraid that's just not good enough for me, and NIMBY I certainly am not.
Sue Statham
Wincham
ricardo, says...
9:39pm Sun 22 Jun 08
On the subject of alternative energy providers: Windfarms provide surprisingly little energy whereas incinerators get rid of lots of rubbish and generate power.
Two problems solved in one!
ricardo, says...
9:52pm Sun 22 Jun 08
We cannot and will not be allowed to carry on filling and polluting the earth with hundreds of thousands of tons of rubbish!
So until somebody comes up with a better, cleaner and more efficient way of turning rubbish into energy Its good enough for me and the planet!
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
9:58pm Sun 22 Jun 08
In a worst case scenario, should incinerators be built, and their toxic emissions cause serious health problems for future generations, what a price to pay for EFW!
Still, it solves the problem of getting rid of lots of rubbish and generating power, so that makes it OK.
What a caring world we live in!
Sue Statham
Wincham
ricardo, says...
10:08pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Here is a solution, for the time being, and it is a viable solution..I dont hear any alternatives only that were all dooomed if this is allowed.
The potential hazard posed by the chlorine plant in Runcorn is a REAL DEADLY threat to the whole of Cheshire NOT an incinerator
ricardo, says...
10:16pm Sun 22 Jun 08
The proposed incinerator can safely destroy harmful chemicals leaving only harmless ash.
They also run without producing smells or smoke.
Its time to drop the scarey approach and try a more convincing 'here is a possible alternative to an incinerator' something chain might consider?
Sue Statham, Wincham says...
10:25pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Sorry, Ricardo, we will have to agree to disagree. I will continue to promote the recycling and reusing of the earth's resources and you just carry on burning it. I'll continue to fight for a healthy environment and you concentrate on the EFW.
Au revoir.
Sue Statham
CHAIN (Cheshire anti-incinerator Network).
ricardo, says...
10:53pm Sun 22 Jun 08
Love light and peace
Paul, Northwich says...
5:44am Wed 25 Jun 08
Having lived near to a wind farm I can tell you that once the construction stage is out of the way, they soon blend into the environment - which cannot be said for traditional sources of energy production.
david, middlewich says...
9:54am Wed 25 Jun 08
ricardo, says...
11:38am Wed 25 Jun 08
But you must be MAD or a liar if you think wind turbines blend into the environment!!
They blight the landscape in many beautiful parts of the British Isles.
Whereas, the proposed sites for incinerators should be on land once occupied by industry.
ricardo, says...
12:14pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Waste combustion is particularly popular in countries such as Japan where land is a scarce resource. Denmark and Sweden have been leaders in using the energy generated from incineration for more than a century, in localised combined heat and power facilities supporting district heating schemes. In 2005, waste incineration produced 4.8 % of the electricity consumption and 13.7 % of the total domestic heat consumption in Denmark. A number of other European Countries rely heavily on incineration for handling municipal waste, in particular Luxemburg, The Netherlands, Germany and France.
So lets not beat ourselves up over EFW proposals as many of the above countrys will be only too happy for the EU to slap massive fines on the UK for our lack of action and indecision when it comes to disposing of our rubbish.
We MUST dispose of rubbish and we MUST have alternative energy sources, if we can combine the two, its a start...
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Brian Pugh, Northwich says...
11:44am Sat 21 Jun 08