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    L Byrne wrote:
    Bickmeister wrote:
    WHS: your comment and smear of UKIP is both predictable & pathetic. You clearly don't know what UKIP's policies are. I think it's a fair bet that you're a Labour supporter.

    BTW the reason UKIP received so many votes from a standing start (with a local branch just over a year old) is:
    1. Voters know Labour deliberately encouraged mass immigration, destroying working class jobs & wages
    2. Labour is behind any cost of living crisis: they wrecked the economy, drove up debts, increased taxes, destroyed private pensions and drove up energy costs via Ed Miliband's ridiculous Climate Change Act
    3. Labour took us to war on a false prospectus, resulting in our servicemen & women losing their lives & limbs
    Your point linking Labour with 'mass immigration' is misleading and, as often the case with UKIP propaganda, not supported by the facts.

    A little research will show that at various times since the Second World War, both Labour and Tory governments have encouraged higher levels of immigration to meet the needs of the UK economy. There is the famous case of Enoch Powell, when he was Minister of Health, bringing in large numbers of nurses and doctors to keep the NHS going. (Of course, that was when the Tories actually cared about the NHS.)

    The link with immigrants 'destroying working class jobs and wages' is just ridiculous. I don't think there were many immigrants involved in Maggie Thatcher's employment wrecking assaults on manufacturing industry in the 70s or on the trade unions so that they could not protect workers wages and conditions.

    Based on anecdotal evidence, my guess would be that second and third generation immigrants with their entrepreneurial spirit often start businesses that create more jobs their indigenous counterparts.

    Meanwhile, congratulations to Mr Naylor on his win.

    As has been said, the low turnout is a real worry. In my opinion it is partially due to the fact that our local MP, Graham Evans, has gone AWOL since his election. He pops up now and then to open a pub or in a charity event but is never prepared to talk about serious political issues such as his support for the dismemberment of the NHS which is currently happening contrary to what his party said before the last election. No wonder people are saying 'Why should I bother voting?'
    You raise some interesting points.

    Governments, whether Tory or Labour as you mention have embraced immigration, which is good, it actually is the UKIP message, we need immigration, we simply want to have control over quality and the numbers. UKIP are PRO immigration, UKIP are PRO Europe, but not this EU political model.

    We are now part of a union that allows free movement of people, given that opportunity, peoples from poor Countries in Eastern Europe will move in one direction, so yes, Bickmeister is correct to say that jobs are taken and wages are driven down.

    Your wider point regarding work ethic of 1st, 2nd and third generation migrants is one issue I do know about.
    My Friend Monchob Ali is finding it hard to get motivated young Bangladeshis to work the hours in his restaurants, we used to call it the British disease, it seems to be infectious. How we solve this problem is beyond me."
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Labour wins Northwich by-election double

New Cheshire West and Chester councillor Sam Naylor.

New Cheshire West and Chester councillor Sam Naylor.

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Northwich Guardian: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter

A FIGUREHEAD of the community is looking forward to a new role representing the people of Winnington and Castle in Chester.

Hartford man Sam Naylor, chairman of Northwich Rugby Club and organiser of the annual Northwich Festival, is a new councillor on Cheshire West and Chester Council (CWAC).

Clr Naylor, standing for the Labour party, won the by-election for the Castle and Winnington ward on Thursday following the resignation of Amy Mercer- Bailey.

He won the town centre ward with 525 votes while Jim Sinar, standing for the Conservative party, won 418 votes.

Amos Wright, from UKIP, won 307 votes while Alice Chapman, from the Liberal Democrat party, won 80 votes.

The turn out was just 19.2 per cent.

Clr Naylor, a former police officer, said: “One of the most disappointing things about local politics is that it’s always a low turn out, particularly in by-elections.

“You get a much higher turn out when it coincides with a general election.

“When speaking to people on the doorstep the number that say ‘nah, I don’t vote, I’ve never voted’.

“I think politicians are one of the most distrusted and hated people and it’s how to address that, I don’t know.”

This is part of the reason why Clr Naylor decided to put himself forward for the seat.

“One of the reasons I stood in the first place was frustration for a long time in the local community because of decisions made at CWAC and years of frustration dealing with local government while pursuing issues like Moss Farm,” he said.

“I’m going to see it from a completely different perspective now.

“I’m looking forward to representing the people of Winnington and Castle.”

Labour candidate Martyn Delaney also won a by-election in Chester’s Boughton ward held on Thursday.

The political composition of CWAC is now 42 Conservative members, 32 Labour and one Liberal Democrat.

A by-election for Northwich Town Council’s Bridge ward, also prompted by the resignation of Amy Mercer-Bailey, was won by Labour candidate Stephen Kryger with 439 votes.

Jim Sinar, from the Conservative party, won 242 votes and Alice Chapman, from the Liberal Democrats, won 96 votes.

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