Villagers are urged to sign petition over 'eyesore' building

Pamela Lavers with her petition outside the Black Greyhound.

Pamela Lavers with her petition outside the Black Greyhound.

First published in News

VILLAGERS are being urged to back a petition calling for an “eyesore” former pub to be demolished or redeveloped.

The petition is being organised by Wincham resident Pamela Lavers over the condition of the former Black Greyhound pub.

The empty building is on the main road between Wincham and Northwich, at the junction of Church Street and Hall Road, and Miss Lavers has become increasingly concerned about its appearance.

She decided to start a petition to put pressure on the building’s owners to do something about the former pub, and the petition will be at the Spar Shop in Wincham for villagers to sign.

Miss Lavers’ concern is shared by villagers and Wincham Parish Council, which is due to discuss the building’s future with the agent for the owners at tonight’s council meeting.

“The building has gradually deteriorated from when it was a pub,” said Miss Lavers, from Church Street.

“The roof looks a mess because some of the slates have been stolen and others are falling off. The windows are boarded up and the car park area is covered in weeds.

“It is an eyesore, and is only going to get worse unless the owners do something about it.

“I would like to see it demolished or redeveloped, not just left to go to wrack and ruin, and the aim of the petition is to put pressure on the owners to do something with the building.

“I do not want to live with a semi-derelict pub at the bottom of the road when we are trying to keep the village looking attractive.”

Miss Lavers and fellow Wincham resident Sue Lawson carry out regular litter picks in the village.

“It is not acceptable to leave the building to decay, and I am appealing to the owners’ sense of civic duty,” added Miss Lavers.

“They are not the people who have to walk or drive past it every time they go anywhere. It is in such a prominent position for everyone who comes in and out of Wincham.”

Miss Lavers is hoping to attract hundreds of signatures for the petition.

Parish council chairman Annie Makepeace said the condition of the Black Greyhound was the top local concern for villagers.

“The building is at the heart of the village, and is falling apart,” she said.

“We are deeply concerned about its safety – slates are falling off, the cellar is flooded and we have had vandalism and travellers on the site.

“It is very disheartening to drive past it, and we would like it to be made safe at an absolute minimum and would love to see it turned into a community asset.

“We hope to ask the agent for the building’s owner what the plans are for the building’s future at tonight’s meeting.”

Clr Makepeace is the CAMRA pub protection officer for Cheshire.

The Guardian was unable to contact the owners by the time it went to press.

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10:44pm Wed 18 Jun 14

hectorplain says...

I've never liked this pub.

Glad it's closed now. I think it should be redeveloped into a place where the old folk of the village can go for free tea, it would keep us off the streets if nowt else, ha ha ha.
I've never liked this pub. Glad it's closed now. I think it should be redeveloped into a place where the old folk of the village can go for free tea, it would keep us off the streets if nowt else, ha ha ha. hectorplain
  • Score: 7

7:30am Thu 19 Jun 14

keith moss says...

If i owned that building i would wait until it was so neglected that drug addicts or the local youth could enter through open windows and doors.Eventually a fire and the resultant insurance payout (or redevelopment interest) would give me the financial stake i needed to develop the site.Other buildings currently waiting for "matched" funding in the Northwich area include the dairy building adjacent to Matalan,several buildings on Winnington Hill and our own council buildings in the center of town.x
If i owned that building i would wait until it was so neglected that drug addicts or the local youth could enter through open windows and doors.Eventually a fire and the resultant insurance payout (or redevelopment interest) would give me the financial stake i needed to develop the site.Other buildings currently waiting for "matched" funding in the Northwich area include the dairy building adjacent to Matalan,several buildings on Winnington Hill and our own council buildings in the center of town.x keith moss
  • Score: 4

12:52pm Thu 19 Jun 14

brianmckeown says...

i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished!
i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished! brianmckeown
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Sun 22 Jun 14

hectorplain says...

Hi Miss Savers

Best of luck with your petition and your admirable endeavours to improve our environment!

When complete please don't hand the petition to the owners - they will only file it in the round wicker file.

Instead take it in person to an important and famous person, someone who really cares about these carbuncles on the face of an old person.

Good luck and cheers!
Hi Miss Savers Best of luck with your petition and your admirable endeavours to improve our environment! When complete please don't hand the petition to the owners - they will only file it in the round wicker file. Instead take it in person to an important and famous person, someone who really cares about these carbuncles on the face of an old person. Good luck and cheers! hectorplain
  • Score: 12

3:39pm Sun 22 Jun 14

hectorplain says...

brianmckeown wrote:
i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished!
Hello Brian

Thank you Brian for sharing your memories with us.


I can well believe that the Sportsman caught fire three times.

That establishment would almost certainly not have had an operational smoke alarm in place, even though they can be obtained very cheaply.

Also, not so long ago it was commonplace for people to smoke incessantly in these horrible pubs - most unhealthy I know, but some folks don't seem to give a **** about their health, or indeed for that of those around them.

I'm glad that they banned smoking in public places, the job of the cleaner must be so much easier now without all those fag ends and matches to sweep up.
[quote][p][bold]brianmckeown[/bold] wrote: i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished![/p][/quote]Hello Brian Thank you Brian for sharing your memories with us. I can well believe that the Sportsman caught fire three times. That establishment would almost certainly not have had an operational smoke alarm in place, even though they can be obtained very cheaply. Also, not so long ago it was commonplace for people to smoke incessantly in these horrible pubs - most unhealthy I know, but some folks don't seem to give a **** about their health, or indeed for that of those around them. I'm glad that they banned smoking in public places, the job of the cleaner must be so much easier now without all those fag ends and matches to sweep up. hectorplain
  • Score: 7

11:50am Mon 23 Jun 14

nicksey says...

hectorplain wrote:
brianmckeown wrote:
i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished!
Hello Brian

Thank you Brian for sharing your memories with us.


I can well believe that the Sportsman caught fire three times.

That establishment would almost certainly not have had an operational smoke alarm in place, even though they can be obtained very cheaply.

Also, not so long ago it was commonplace for people to smoke incessantly in these horrible pubs - most unhealthy I know, but some folks don't seem to give a **** about their health, or indeed for that of those around them.

I'm glad that they banned smoking in public places, the job of the cleaner must be so much easier now without all those fag ends and matches to sweep up.
hectorplain - I am against smoking in public places, however banning smoking in pubs has just moved the most fervent smokers outside often onto the pavements where they just chuck their fag ends into the gutter for someone else to clear up.

I always find it strange that smokers don't see cigarette ends as litter and are happy to throw them onto the floor wherever they happen to be standing, even if they would not dream of dropping litter of any other kind.

Drivers who smoke are the same. As soon as it is finished, out of the window it comes, to be someone else's problem and not theirs. Smoking in cars should be banned in the same way as using a hand held phone is. It takes the same lack of concentration to light one up as dialing a number, it produces huge amounts of litter, it is responsible for fires starting and is unhealthy for any passengers in the car.

Sorry, slightly off topic rant over!
[quote][p][bold]hectorplain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brianmckeown[/bold] wrote: i remember when it was first taken over , i went for an indian and the new owner told me he intended getting planning for a small estate and then selling the plot ! it seems to be the way things are done here ,if you cant get permission leave the property empty and unprotected and perhaps an accidental fire! it happened on castle hill ! properties caught fire one after the other, if i remember correctly "the sportsman" caught fire 3 times before the council condemned it and allowed it to be demolished![/p][/quote]Hello Brian Thank you Brian for sharing your memories with us. I can well believe that the Sportsman caught fire three times. That establishment would almost certainly not have had an operational smoke alarm in place, even though they can be obtained very cheaply. Also, not so long ago it was commonplace for people to smoke incessantly in these horrible pubs - most unhealthy I know, but some folks don't seem to give a **** about their health, or indeed for that of those around them. I'm glad that they banned smoking in public places, the job of the cleaner must be so much easier now without all those fag ends and matches to sweep up.[/p][/quote]hectorplain - I am against smoking in public places, however banning smoking in pubs has just moved the most fervent smokers outside often onto the pavements where they just chuck their fag ends into the gutter for someone else to clear up. I always find it strange that smokers don't see cigarette ends as litter and are happy to throw them onto the floor wherever they happen to be standing, even if they would not dream of dropping litter of any other kind. Drivers who smoke are the same. As soon as it is finished, out of the window it comes, to be someone else's problem and not theirs. Smoking in cars should be banned in the same way as using a hand held phone is. It takes the same lack of concentration to light one up as dialing a number, it produces huge amounts of litter, it is responsible for fires starting and is unhealthy for any passengers in the car. Sorry, slightly off topic rant over! nicksey
  • Score: 13

10:09pm Thu 10 Jul 14

hectorplain says...

Hello Mrs Paver,

Have you collected sufficient signatures yet?
Hello Mrs Paver, Have you collected sufficient signatures yet? hectorplain
  • Score: 2

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