Northwich Town Council wants to know what residents think of Memorial Court subway plans

Northwich Guardian: An artist's impression of how the completed Memorial Court will look. An artist's impression of how the completed Memorial Court will look.

A SUBWAY beneath a major Northwich junction could be filled in as part of plans for Memorial Court.

The underpass below Chesterway and Watling Street could be replaced by a pelican crossing in Cheshire West and Chester Council (CWAC) plans for the new cultural and leisure centre.

Northwich Town Council members were surprised at the proposal as they thought the underpass was going to be retained and hope to discover residents’ views.

Town mayor Clr Bob Robinson said: “It's all rather surprising.

“I'd spoken to them about access and they changed their minds and said the underpass wouldn't be closed, so I said in that case it needs proper lighting and proper security.”

Clr Andy Stott said: “Their view is that people don't like it because it's dark and unsafe and people would rather use a pelican crossing.

“But we're not sure and would rather listen to the people of Northwich rather than the people of Cheshire West and Chester Council.

“If we don't want it to be filled in then we'll be saving CWAC money.”

Clr Paul Dolan said he would be interested to know if there was any evidence of the subway being unsafe.

“If they think it's unsafe have they tested it?” he said.

“What are the number of incidents associated with it in the past year?

“I don't know if it's being said without evidence.”

He added: “But it could do with a facelift.”

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3:49pm Mon 10 Feb 14

MrT1976 says...

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"But we're not sure and would rather listen to the people of Northwich rather than the people of Cheshire West and Chester Council."

Like that makes any difference.....
Quote "But we're not sure and would rather listen to the people of Northwich rather than the people of Cheshire West and Chester Council." Like that makes any difference..... MrT1976

4:04pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Daniel18 says...

I think that it should be filled -Its dark and depressing.
I think that it should be filled -Its dark and depressing. Daniel18

11:27pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Markjtt says...

Another nail in the coffin of trying to get through town. Another obstacle to the smooth flow of traffic. The facility should be made safe and secure, not destroyed. There seems to be ill conceived and regressive planning by people who don't care. A friend of mine who has never been before recently ventured into the town by road and vowed never to return. Family who have lived in the area a lifetime find it quicker to go to Chester than to go through town, let alone into. Don't get me wrong I love my home town, but successive ideas like this don't help in my view.
Another nail in the coffin of trying to get through town. Another obstacle to the smooth flow of traffic. The facility should be made safe and secure, not destroyed. There seems to be ill conceived and regressive planning by people who don't care. A friend of mine who has never been before recently ventured into the town by road and vowed never to return. Family who have lived in the area a lifetime find it quicker to go to Chester than to go through town, let alone into. Don't get me wrong I love my home town, but successive ideas like this don't help in my view. Markjtt

7:32am Tue 11 Feb 14

northwich_cyclist says...

+1 for filling it in. Let's reclaim the space above ground for people, and put cars firmly in second place. For all the bleating about biking in Northwich, we've yet to see any proactive planning; a Toucan crossing would help peolple on the north of the death-race (sorry, the Chesterway) get to their shiny new sports hall and indoor paddling pool.
+1 for filling it in. Let's reclaim the space above ground for people, and put cars firmly in second place. For all the bleating about biking in Northwich, we've yet to see any proactive planning; a Toucan crossing would help peolple on the north of the death-race (sorry, the Chesterway) get to their shiny new sports hall and indoor paddling pool. northwich_cyclist

11:46am Tue 11 Feb 14

Daniel18 says...

Markjtt says...
The road through town is not a rat run short cut. At the end of the day pedestrians should get priority in the town centre. If we want people to come to town then they need to feel safe, and I can assure you that walking through a subway does not make you feel safe.
With regards to your friend, then I think they need to retake their driving test. The one way system isn't rocket science - If they can't drive round Northwich god help them in Chester, Manchester or Liverpool!
Markjtt says... The road through town is not a rat run short cut. At the end of the day pedestrians should get priority in the town centre. If we want people to come to town then they need to feel safe, and I can assure you that walking through a subway does not make you feel safe. With regards to your friend, then I think they need to retake their driving test. The one way system isn't rocket science - If they can't drive round Northwich god help them in Chester, Manchester or Liverpool! Daniel18

9:09am Wed 12 Feb 14

jimjamhartford says...

I would say an underground subway, properly lit and used regularly, would be a lot safer than any crossing where you set foot on the road. Obviously the need to cross this part of the road is going to increase so something is required, but I believe the best and cheapest option would be to keep and improve the subway..
A bonus of this option would be the reduced need to stop traffic on the already painful one way system.
I would say an underground subway, properly lit and used regularly, would be a lot safer than any crossing where you set foot on the road. Obviously the need to cross this part of the road is going to increase so something is required, but I believe the best and cheapest option would be to keep and improve the subway.. A bonus of this option would be the reduced need to stop traffic on the already painful one way system. jimjamhartford

12:24am Fri 14 Feb 14

Colin 1953 says...

Maybe these councillors should try putting themselves in the position of a young woman - but then they might be at risk of making a sensible comment.

Northwich Town Council has to be the first in the country to suggest that an indirect, intimidating, unpopular and out-of-date pedestrian facility should be kept rather than accepting a new, at level, type that has to be regarded as an improvement by anybody that crosses a road.

What is the town council for exactly? These people are out of touch - to say the least.
Maybe these councillors should try putting themselves in the position of a young woman - but then they might be at risk of making a sensible comment. Northwich Town Council has to be the first in the country to suggest that an indirect, intimidating, unpopular and out-of-date pedestrian facility should be kept rather than accepting a new, at level, type that has to be regarded as an improvement by anybody that crosses a road. What is the town council for exactly? These people are out of touch - to say the least. Colin 1953

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